the making of a show
 
 
 
  Frank Skinner in search of George Formby
 
 
 
  
Date: 2nd March 2010 at Poolside Cottage, Madeley.
  Purpose:
  Daniel Wiles to meet John, search through GF memorabilia and discuss the show ‘In Search Of George Formby’.
  Eighteen years had passed since Daniel Wiles last met John Walley to research his excellent South Bank Show documentary of George 
  Formby. Daniel is himself a Formby fan, and member of the GFS. He studied 
  for four years at Keele University (just two miles from the Walley’s home) 
  and is now a much-respected freelance TV producer.
  Frank Skinner’s ‘In Search Of George Formby’ is one of a series of 
  ‘searches’ and is due to be screened on BBC4.  Another star is David Suchet 
  (Agatha Christies’ Poirot) who is searching for the comedian Sid Field.
  Before the visit:
  The house was tidied! Carpets vacuumed, surfaces dusted, all clutter 
  removed! (It was hidden in the nearest cupboard) and the best china re-
  discovered from its safe hiding place and dusted off! And then John had to 
  learn to work the DVD player!! That was a task in itself! It took forty minutes 
  during which he was continuously complaining about the mysteries of 
  modern technology and a wife who spoke to him in her ‘teacher’s voice’ as if 
  she was talking to a retarded eight year old!’ (Unfortunately she didn’t like to 
  inform him that all her eight year olds could master the DVD remote control).
  Next, all the George Formby memorabilia was found, prepared and lovingly 
  laid out. When the much awaited visitors finally arrived at lunch time, they 
  were shepherded into John’s ‘Formby Room’ where his collection of scrapbooks, photos, tapes and DVD’s were all lovingly displayed. 
  The Visit:
  The meeting commenced in earnest, after a pub lunch. The pub was 100 yards away. (That could have been disastrous, the cooking varies 
  because the chef left just before Christmas and hadn’t been replaced) However all was well – the BBC paid which explains the high license 
  fee! Then it was back to Poolside and the real business began. Daniel was quite excited about the 
  show and promised that “It will be better than my South Bank Show, That was fifty two minutes, this 
  one (BBC4) is a full hour,” and was keen to assure John that it was his intention to do the “GF Society 
  and George Formby proud.”
  Things they talked about: John made it very clear that the GFS committee must be consulted at 
  Blackpool about the show. He has already contacted Peter Pollard and Dennis Mitchell. So, Ok! So far!
  Next steps: John wrote copious notes in appalling handwriting which I (the wife) was left to type up and 
  decipher. 
  Date: Wednesday 27th March
  Daniel Wiles emailed some questions which he hoped John would answer, unfortunately he’d used an 
  old email address and so they hadn’t arrived! PANIC! All was cleared up with a phone call to Zoe 
  Timmers (TV researcher for Liberty Bell), the questions arrived, John relaxed and discovered he could 
  answer them easily and so he retired early to bed to get his full quota of beauty sleep. He awoke to 
  find a heavy weight on his chest – It was only the cat!
  Date: Thursday 28th March
  Thursday dawned grey and threatening, not an auspicious start. Wife was packed off to work leaving 
  John dressed to kill and ‘on pins’ until the taxi arrived promptly at 8.45am to whisk him off to 
  Warrington and George’s grave. He 
  recalls a good journey, taking less than an hour and for once he had no 
  worries about getting lost on the way.
  As Daniel Wiles was delayed he spent the first 45 minutes sitting in an 
  unkempt dingy office belonging to the cemetery officials, one of whom 
  remembered sitting on his father’s back in 1961 to watch George Formby’s 
  funeral cortege pass by! Soon there were signs of life as the camera crew 
  appeared, followed by Daniel 
  and Zoe and a good twenty 
  minutes later, himself 
  accompanied by Figs Jackman 
  (a crew member). That first 
  meeting was very friendly. 
  Daniel made the introductions 
  and Frank told John to call him 
  ‘Frank’ and then remarked, 
  “You’re John Walley, the 
  Formby expert” or something 
  like that! At the grave, John 
  discovered that it wasn’t 
  Frank’s style to stick to a script 
  or even read from one as he 
  liked ‘spontaneity’ and so they 
  actually approached the grave 
  from behind. John remembers 
  being very touched by Frank’s 
  reaction. Frank had not seen 
  the grave before and was very 
  surprised that much of it was 
  about George Formby senior 
  and only a small plaque to 
  George Junior at the base of 
  the edifice. He’d also brought a 
  bouquet of white roses which were reverently placed alongside the base – a 
  nice touch! Another moving moment was when Frank sat on the edge of the 
  grave to quietly sing ‘Following In Father’s Footsteps’, strumming gently on 
  his Dallas C model with almost a tear in his eye – just as there was in John 
  Walley’s eye. John and Frank discussed Formby Senior’s career and the 
  tragic circumstances surrounding his early death. Finally, they discuss 
  George Junior’s funeral and the hundred thousand people who lined the 
  streets of Warrington on that sad day.
  Next destination, Lytham-St-Annes  for ‘Beryldene’, the Formby’s 
  last home.
  Unfortunately, they weren’t allowed into the house for filming as the 
  occupier wanted £1,000 just to view it. Needless to say, the director 
  refused to pay such an exorbitant sum and instead filmed in the sand 
  dunes opposite ‘Beryldene’. Here, with the wind blowing in their hair, Frank 
  and John talked about the Formby’s final years at Lytham culminating in 
  Beryl’s death on Christmas Day 1960,  a few days before she sat up in her 
  death bed fully made up with Harry Scott at her side to watch George 
  telling the story of his life on BBC television in the magnificent ‘Friday 
  Show’. 
  Then they talked about the sale of George and Beryl’s possessions, 
  instigated by the executor of George’s will, John Crowther. How sad it was 
  that it had all come to this. People rummaging through everything from 
  George and Beryl’s underclothes to their jewellery. Looking through the sale catalogue, John and Frank came across the page listing 
  George’s ukuleles and John explained that the ukulele he was handing to Frank was the one 
  George used in the film ‘Keep Your Seats Please’ to sing ‘When I’m Cleaning Windows’ and which 
  John eventually bought for £20. John played a few couplets from the famous song and so did 
  Frank and then the uke was put safely away in its case.
  Following lunch (paid for by the BBC!) it was off to the North Pier at Blackpool where once again 
  John and Frank talked about George’s fabulous film career. Frank’s favourite film was ‘Keep Your 
  Seats Please’ (the scene where the goat is X-rayed, he thought was terrific). John concluded by 
  saying that George’s funniest film was ‘It’s In The Air’ (because of the many slapstick moments 
  and the achingly funny scenes in the pilotless plane at the end) and that George’s best film – from 
  a cast and plot point of view – was probably ‘Let George Do It)
  Thursday’s thoughts.
  When the day was over, John recalled that Frank Skinner seemed a thoroughly down to earth guy, 
  a friendly man who was obviously a great admirer of George. He liked the fact that they shared the 
  same silly sense of humour and he enjoyed some of the stories shared by Frank and the film crew 
  over lunch. Frank was worried about his right hand strumming technique and John told him to 
  think of his favourite football team, West Bromwich Albion and just do down, up, down, up, like 
  their recent seasons in the top two divisions! When John told him that he supported Port Vale he 
  offered him his deepest sympathy! Another lovely story Frank told was when he met Sir Michael 
  Parkinson on the BBC car park for a charity event. Parkinson, of course, loves money and has an 
  eye for the ladies. He emerged from his Rolls dressed in a full length leather coat zipped from top 
  to bottom. Eric Morecambe who was with Frank looked at ‘Parkie’ and said, “Hello, Parkinson. I 
  see you’ve come as a wallet!” Lovely story!
  Date: Friday 29th March
  John and Daniel met up in the foyer at the Imperial, prior to meeting the committee. Daniel 
  admitted that ‘today was real fun’. They’d visited a rock factory that afternoon and made a 
  huge amount of rock and enjoyed watching Frank forming the letters and rolling it all out. 
  He’d actually put the ‘F’ into Formby and made seven hundred sticks of rock which were to 
  be handed out at the meeting on Sunday afternoon.
  The team then followed that up by a visit to the soon to be completed Comedy Carpet 
  (where they met the mayor), a headland being built with European money near to the 
  Tower. It is to be the size of a football pitch and will contain the names and catchphrases 
  carved out of granite of famous comics. So there should be the phrase immortalised by 
  George (senior) ‘I’m coughing better tonight’ and George (junior) ‘Turned out nice again’ 
  and possibly the lyrics to a ‘Little Stick Of Blackpool Rock’. What a nice commemoration of 
  the past for future generations. The Mayor was a disappointment! Daniel recalls that he was only semi-enthusiastic and surprisingly, wasn’t 
  able to tell them much about the Comedy Carpet. Frank Skinner had to tell him! The mayor seemed to be more of a Charlie Carolli fan than a 
  Formby fan. Some people never learn!
  Finally, the team had visited Blackpool Tower. John recalled the camera man (who carried a huge camera on his shoulder) admitting to not 
  being too keen on heights. Apparently they went up to the very top, higher than the public can generally go which was great fun and provided 
  some fantastic views.
  At the committee meeting on Friday night Daniel Wiles began by thanking everyone for letting them come and again emphasised that in no 
  way would they disrupt our meeting. He stressed that in no way would the programme ‘set George up’ and that the society would come out of 
  it very well. He, too, was impressed by Frank Skinner at George’s grave. He also promised to produce an up-to-date membership card for the 
  meeting and was looking forward to the next two days and the thrash as there was, “nothing to touch the ‘thrash’ that makes you so happy as 
  the sound of a uke.”
  Date: Saturday 27th March
  Whilst we were busy preparing for our meeting, the Liberty Bell film crew were off to Wigan with Frank 
  Skinner at George’s statue. Unfortunately, it was not as productive a time as they had hoped, as according to 
  Daniel Wiles, very few ‘youngsters’ knew who George Formby was. They had never heard of him! 
  (Sacrilege!) Their interviews will end up on the cutting room floor. He had however more luck with the 
  ‘oldies’.
  After this, they returned in time to interview a very ‘dashing’ Andy Eastwood. ‘Dashing’ not just because of 
  his smart attire, but because he had been appearing in Carlisle and was on his way to appear in Leeds with 
  Blackpool’s meeting being a quick detour along the way! They then filmed his brief appearance before 
  progressing onto the afternoon’s concert and in particular Frank Skinner’s contribution. 
  Frank actually went down very well with the audience. He’d paid £950 for a uke – a baby Gibson, made his 
  excuses before he started, admitted to being terrified of playing in front of so many ‘experts’, acknowledged 
  that it was a ‘real honour’ to be playing here at the meeting today and explained that solos he didn’t do 
  except ‘when they’re by accident’. And at the end of his spot he received, to his credit, what all genuine 
  Formby fans receive – a thunderous round of applause for their efforts. Following this, there was the jaw 
  aching posing for photos and endless autograph signing. 
  Next came his interview with Francesca Davies. It was a complete surprise for her – she’d never heard of 
  him before the meeting! This had been set up in advance by Daniel’s team, with her parents’ knowledge. She 
  told him about her gigs, her interest in George Formby, passed on the advice given to her by Ken Dodd and 
  proudly claimed to have ‘just taught him the split stroke’. Not a bad achievement for a 13-year old and in less 
  than 10 minutes.
  More filming of the meeting followed and 
  then it was time for the thrash. Frank 
  Skinner was on it, of course, in the middle, 
  and so were most other members in the 
  meeting. It was chaotic fun!
  Tea time at last! The crew packed up for the 
  day, but returned voluntarily later in the 
  evening, in their free time, rather than 
  sampling the night life in Blackpool. Every member of the crew had been so 
  affected and enthused by the members that they came back to the meeting 
  and wallowed in the nostalgia and gave up their evening off.
  Sunday 28th March:
  Sunday was another busy day for Daniel’s team. Frank wanted lessons and 
  was to appear in Andy Little’s tuition class. The stage was carefully set and 
  the room arranged so that the youngest members sat with Frank on the front 
  row. (It took a lot of cajoling to persuade some members to move!) The cameras were placed carefully both at the front and back of the room 
  and then it all began – Frank entered. Andy’s first piece of advice was to master the triple stroke, so everyone had a go. Then there was the 
  ‘flick’ another variation sometimes occurring by accident! Moreover, Andy then demonstrated this in the song ‘You Don’t Need A Licence For 
  That’. Finally, Andrew mentioned the ‘split stroke’ a difficult right hand technique but the “absolute bedrock” of what members are trying to 
  achieve. The whole class, Frank included did their best and hurried off to 
  practise.
  Next it was a break for lunch. After which it was the turn of other 
  committee members to be interviewed on location, down on the prom by 
  the sea. All were beautifully attired. Gerry Mawdsley (president), Dennis 
  Mitchell (chairman), Peter Pollard (vice president), and John Walley 
  (founder member).
  Gerry and Dennis talked about 
  the statue in Wigan and the 
  huge amount of work involved 
  with Wigan council and how 
  the GFS is all about people 
  sharing a common interest. 
  Frank was astonished at the 
  age range of the members and 
  the ‘hardcore’ ukulele talk and 
  the reasons why they play the 
  uke and love George. Peter 
  told Frank that George was the foremost entertainer of his day and even fifty years after his death 
  he still lights up people’s lives and puts a smile on their faces. Frank said how much he admired 
  Peter’s newsreel selection and that he had actually discovered the GFS via Peter’s web site. 
  Back to the meeting and after taking more ‘shots’ of members it was time for the final interview of 
  the weekend with Dennis Taylor at the shop. Dennis explained how the shop had grown over the 
  years and how material is available on the internet creating a worldwide link for the society. All 
  profits go to the society to pay for things we cannot normally afford, such as archive material. The 
  Formby statue at Wigan also received generous funding from the shop.
  On Sunday tea time the BBC crew packed their bags and were heading for the 6.10 train from 
  Blackpool to London. They had obviously been much affected by the meeting and the love people 
  had for George Formby so much so that Figs Jackman, a crew member insisted on being taught 
  the chords for ‘Lamppost’ and whose very next step would be to purchase a reasonably priced 
  uke. Daniel explained that during the next five weeks the hours of filming and interviewing would 
  be edited into an hour long 
  programme which will do the name of George Formby and his society 
  proud. No transmission date had yet been decided but Daniel will 
  keep us informed. We were left with the certain knowledge that the 
  BBC crew – and Daniel in particular – had been involved in not just a 
  job of work for which they were paid, but a labour of love.
   This work is the property of Gill Walley and may not be 
  reproduced without permission.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  In 2010 it was planned for another documentary featuring George Formby and the GFS which would be produced by the brilliant 
  Daniel Wiles, creator of the finest documentary on George Formby ever made, The South Bank Show - George Formby. GFS 
  founder and honorary member John Walley worked with Daniel on the original 1991 production so it was natural for them to meet 
  again to create a new work, this time featuring comedian, Frank Skinner.
  John’s wife Gill, chief photographer and for many years, the Blackpool convention reporter for The Vellum, kept notes and took 
  photographs of the whole exercise. I am delighted to produce this page to highlight Gill’s work and the events that helped to 
  create another brilliant feature on George Formby
 
 
 
  
THE MAKING OF A SHOW...
  PRESENTER: FRANK SKINNER
  PRODUCER/DIRECTOR: DANIEL WILES
  RESEARCHER: ZOE TIMMERS
  INTERVIEWEE: JOHN WALLEY AND GFS MEMBERS 
  LIBERTY BELL PRODUCTIONS FOR THE BBC