Is it George or not - hear the track for yourself
The recording has now been heard in full by
enough people both GFS members and just
people browsing the web and the opinion
seems to be that this is definitely not
George Formby.
More people have also expressed the
opinion that it could be Frank Formby but
the members of The Shellac Collective were
adamant that Frank just wouldn't have had
the clout to get inside Decca's studios.
Personally I think that they are doing Frank
a bit of a disservice with their
dismissiveness of his name.
Consider the fact that Frank appeared in
theatres through the UK in the late 30's and
40's and he also appeared in a Pathe News
clip in 1935, singing one of his dad's songs
(he comes on at 2:20). He also appeared on
Radio Luxembourg in 1938 - so why
wouldn't Decca think to at least audition him
after losing his big brother to the rival EMI
Regal Zonophone setup?
If not Frank then who? Listeners have
emailed to suggest that the mystery singer's
playing just isn't up to George Formby's
standard and some have suggested that the
instrument doesn't sound like the
Ludwig/Abbott/Gibson instruments that GF
played.
We will probably never know the true
identity of the mystery singer - Frank
Formby (as far as we know) never officially
recorded anything but if you want to hear
what he sounded like in later life, there is a
recording that Dickie Speake gave to me
which comes from a GFS meeting that
Frank attended. You can listen to it in a
second player below.
Have a listen to Frank Formby singing the
full version here.
A very interesting recording has been discovered
which the finders claim is likely to be George
Formby, singing on a Decca recording in 1938.
The finders are known as The Shellac Collective
and their spokesman Greg Butler has exchanged
numerous e-mails with me about the validity of
the recording.
A portion of the recording has been played to
quite a few well known members of the George
Formby Society and all have expressed doubts
that it is Formby and two of the listeners offered
the suggestion that it might possibly be Frank
Formby, one of George’s younger brothers who
did work in theatres throughout the UK.
The finders are not convinced by our members
statements and whilst we shall never really know
if it is or is not George Formby listening to clip
hear and to the broadcast on Tuesday evening
will perhaps help to decide the issue.
Shellac Collection spokesman Greg Butler
writes, "The Shellac Collective have uncovered a
Decca Test pressing from 1938 of an unknown
solo demo recording which they think is by
George Formby and which is causing a great stir
in George Formby Society circles.
Some "experts" are unsure that it really is
George Formby - Some think it could be his
brother Frank Formby - Some think it might be
an impersonator - But no-one yet has been able
to give a better explanation than that this is
simply George cutting himself a demo of a song
he is trying out. Why this was done at Decca and
not in the Regal Zonophone studios where he
was contracted nobody knows... and adds to the
mystery.
The 78 test plate was pressed in heavy vinyl on
the orders of Decca Producer Geoff Milne in the
late 1960's / early 1970's. He ordered a mass
pressing to be done of one off masters because
Decca were just about destroy all their stock of
old plates to free up space in their offices, and
this 78 was found amongst a discarded box of
these discs!
The record has the matrix number TB 3600
which would date it at around October 1938, and
because it just has a blank white label it has
been given the working title "You can tell him by
his little ukulele" which is the hook line in the
song. The record is just "George" accompanied
by his Uke (NOT a banjolele!) it is clearly a work
in progress and not a finished song as he hasn't
really bothered to polish up the solo and kind of
makes it up as he goes along....
The whole song is a
bit of a mystery!
Peter Pollard writes, "We would like everybody
to listen in to the show and details of how to
receive the broadcast are listed below.
There are many arguments for and against the
validity of the recording but I wouldn't want to
influence anybody either way before the
broadcast date, perhaps afterwards we can open
the discussion to all interested parties".
Update - 15/03/2012
Having listened to the broadcast I think the
presenters on Cambridge 105 FM did a very fair
job of showcasing the recording. They certainly
were not biased and discussed quite a few
possibilities as to how this recording had been
created. I honestly think that all Formby lovers
would really like this to be George but I am still
not convinced. Perhaps this subject will run and
run - and why not?
Greg Butler of Cambridge 105 FM writes:
For everyone who missed the Kipper the Cat
Birthday Party Radio Show which played the
new "George Formby" find - It is now available
as a podcast. It looks from the poll results and
comments that this probably is NOT George.
But, we are No further forward working out just
who it is that had been allowed into Decca's
studios in March 1938 to cut this side! Clearly
they were trying to sound like George - But there
does not appear to have been an impersonator
around at that time that it could have been...
anymore ideas anyone ??
Have a listen to the full version here
You can tune in on-line at www.cambridge105.fm
The Kipper The Cat show goes out fortnightly
and plays a good mix of previously or rarely
unheard interesting tracks mainly from shellac
recordings.
UPDATE